Subject: XMP-Delix

From: shd
Date: Tue Aug 23 09:53:32 2005

To: Kohina-UADE-Forum
I just received email from the author of XMP-Delix:

 http://www.pieknyman.tk/

They are writing a similar system as UADE/Deliplayer for Windows. They're not open source, but I'm hoping we could do something productive together. I told they can use the players distributed with UADE (actually they need not ask us!).

If you are a Windows user (I'm not ;-) you might even try the player, and report if there is something that could be useful with UADE.

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From: mld
Date: Tue Aug 23 10:07:05 2005

To: Kohina-UADE-Forum
neat...

starscream as m68k cpu emu... I think it's asm86 based so it should perform really fast on intel machines I guess :)

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From: shd
Date: Tue Aug 23 10:37:04 2005

To: Kohina-UADE-Forum
[quote:44b3d8cec7="mld"]neat...
starscream as m68k cpu emu... I think it's asm86 based so it should perform really fast on intel machines I guess :)[/quote:44b3d8cec7]

Speed is not an issue:

$ time uade123 -f foo.wav fc13.Defjam-CCS-ACC1
Module: fc13.Defjam-CCS-ACC1 (30000 bytes)
Playing time position 146.5s in subsong 0                
Song end (player)
Playing time position 146.5s in subsong 0                

real    0m2.827s
user    0m0.160s
sys     0m0.204s

That's 1.9% of the CPU used on AMD64 2GHz. The user time is only 0.16s. On a pentium4 the user time was 0.24s. AMD owns again.

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From: shd
Date: Tue Aug 23 10:38:09 2005

To: Kohina-UADE-Forum
[quote:f1de8e40ac="shd"]
That's 1.9% of the CPU used on AMD64 2GHz. The user time is only 0.16s. On a pentium4 the user time was 0.24s. AMD owns again.[/quote:f1de8e40ac]

The Pentium4 was 2.8 GHz. This tells a story that clock frequency isn't everything..

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From: amadeus
Date: Tue Aug 23 12:02:54 2005

To: Kohina-UADE-Forum
[quote:06fd508228="shd"]They are writing a similar system as UADE/Deliplayer for Windows. They're not open source, but I'm hoping we could do something productive together. I told they can use the players distributed with UADE (actually they need not ask us!).[/quote:06fd508228]

They support the exact (?) same formats as UADE. A shame they haven't solved support for MusicLine, Hippel 7V Coso/ST, MaxTrax, MMD3, DigiBooster Pro, or StoneTracker.

Do you know, if they are going for NotePlayer, audio.device, ahi.device support?

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From: mld
Date: Tue Aug 23 17:23:47 2005

To: Kohina-UADE-Forum
heh, I wondered about the same... Maybe because they are basing on the players that come with uade...

no idea, about *.device support. I read it's in its early stages...

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From: shd
Date: Tue Aug 23 19:20:09 2005

To: Kohina-UADE-Forum
[quote:221cecb747="amadeus"]
They support the exact (?) same formats as UADE. A shame they haven't solved support for MusicLine, Hippel 7V Coso/ST, MaxTrax, MMD3, DigiBooster Pro, or StoneTracker.

Do you know, if they are going for NotePlayer, audio.device, ahi.device support?[/quote:221cecb747]

I would guess it will take some time for them to support all the same players, because there are lots of tricks that need to be done to get them working =) They have already looked at our source for reference, as they should. Now I'm hoping they will be useful for us too. One author said sharing code could be possible.

We aren't interested in noteplayers, but audio.device and ahi.device support would be nice.