Subject: mod.the_real_world sounds strange

From: amadeus
Date: Sat Apr 1 23:27:02 2006

To: UADE-Developer-discussion
Hi,

uade123 cvs seams to have differculty playing this module

[url]www.heko.dk/~maj/mod.the_real_world[/url]

but mikmod have even bigger issues!

To me the problems are e.g. from 3 seconds to 9 seconds.

Can this be confirmed? =)

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From: shd
Date: Sun Apr 2 11:35:42 2006

To: UADE-Developer-discussion
[quote:e437bb19b5="amadeus"]Hi,

Can this be confirmed? =)[/quote:e437bb19b5]

What is wrong with it? I don't hear anything special. What is the last version that does not have the problem?

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From: amadeus
Date: Sun Apr 2 14:57:24 2006

To: UADE-Developer-discussion
[quote:f24cfe0491="shd"]What is wrong with it? I don't hear anything special. What is the last version that does not have the problem?[/quote:f24cfe0491]

I can try.

But when I think about it. Changes are that uade123 actually plays it correct, and I have always listened to it with a buggy replayer? =)

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From: amadeus
Date: Sun Apr 2 15:08:41 2006

To: UADE-Developer-discussion
[quote:87d392ee18="shd"]What is wrong with it?[/quote:87d392ee18]

In position 1 (pattern 0 channel 4) the commands
[code:1:87d392ee18]C#3 07 00 000
F#3 07 00 000
G#3 07 00 000
[/code:1:87d392ee18]

sounds wrong to me, and very different in mikmod!

In Soundtracker 0.6.8
[url]http://freshmeat.net/projects/soundtracker/[/url]

it sounds like I remember it should...?

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From: mld/uade team
Date: Mon Apr 3 06:54:19 2006

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thanks for the report, Martin. I'll check it with Protracker 2.38/3.15 on a real Amiga to see if I introduced a bug to our replay.

Concerning Soundtracker 0.6.8, beware there are protracker features almost no pc player supports... IIRC Linux-ST 0.6.8 tries to be Fastracker compatible, so a Protracker MOD (The mod is by P!NK/AYS so, it's most likely one) might sound different (broken or not) on it compared to the real thing.

anyway I'll check it...

Michael

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From: mld/uade team
Date: Mon Apr 3 07:54:15 2006

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nope the song seems to be alright with uade2. It even has that strange phasing effect :-)

Apart from that... mod.the_real_world is the wrong file or soundtracker 0.6.8 seems to convert things very badly... :-)

It does surprize me it plays differently on most of the pc mod playing engines, due to some protracker tricks it uses.

Michael

ps. if you like to test there's some other files in the songtest cvs under mod_engine_test, Martin

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From: mld/ uade team
Date: Mon Apr 3 07:56:24 2006

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correction: it [u:cde46c62c9]doesn't[/u:cde46c62c9] suprise me it plays differently, du to the protracker tricks... ;-)[/u]

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From: amadeus
Date: Wed Apr 5 16:07:24 2006

To: UADE-Developer-discussion
[quote:5e10cf85ab="mld/uade team"]Concerning Soundtracker 0.6.8, beware there are protracker features almost no pc player supports... IIRC Linux-ST 0.6.8 tries to be Fastracker compatible, so a Protracker MOD (The mod is by P!NK/AYS so, it's most likely one) might sound different (broken or not) on it compared to the real thing.[/quote:5e10cf85ab]

I thought FastTracker was backwards compatible. Thanks for this tip =)

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From: amadeus
Date: Wed Apr 5 16:17:53 2006

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[quote:7801a21510="mld/uade team"]nope the song seems to be alright with uade2. It even has that strange phasing effect :-)[/quote:7801a21510]

So for all these years have I been listening to it with a wrong/buggy replayer and got used to the bug? =)

[quote:7801a21510="mld/uade team"]Apart from that... mod.the_real_world is the wrong file or soundtracker 0.6.8 seems to convert things very badly... :-)[/quote:7801a21510]

It is a bit concerning =)

[quote:7801a21510]It does[b:7801a21510]n't[/b:7801a21510] surprize me it plays differently on most of the pc mod playing engines, due to some protracker tricks it uses.
[/quote:7801a21510]

How come you know so much about trackers? =) *

[quote:7801a21510]ps. if you like to test there's some other files in the songtest cvs under mod_engine_test, Martin
[/quote:7801a21510]

I will do that, just to hear how wrong it can go =)

* Taken from Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail: How come you know so much about swallows?

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From: amadeus
Date: Wed Apr 5 16:51:02 2006

To: UADE-Developer-discussion
[quote:e92e8391bd="mld/uade team"]ps. if you like to test there's some other files in the songtest cvs under mod_engine_test, Martin[/quote:e92e8391bd]

I am listening to megadrive.mod right now from the test song cvs, which is really cool btw. =), but are all these played correctly in uade2 ?

Did you fix xmp 2.0.4? I haven't been able to compile it for years, and I sure miss it! =(

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From: mld/uade team
Date: Wed Apr 5 22:16:48 2006

To: UADE-Developer-discussion
[quote:df91a1402b]How come you know so much about swallows?[/quote:df91a1402b]
We have the birdflu down here, so you start get a normal interests in fowl around you... Even in yellow ooooooooooooooooooones :-)

[quote:df91a1402b]XMP 2.04[/quote:df91a1402b]
I did an apt-get... Didn't know it was broken? Might be some incompatible gcc or something.

[quote:df91a1402b]mld/uade team wrote:
  Apart from that... mod.the_real_world is the wrong file or soundtracker 0.6.8 seems to convert things very badly... :-)
 [quote:df91a1402b]It is a bit concerning =) [/quote:df91a1402b][/quote:df91a1402b]

hehe, understatement *g*

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From: shd
Date: Wed Apr 5 22:24:50 2006

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[quote:7f0d2ff804="mld/uade team"]
I did an apt-get... Didn't know it was broken? Might be some incompatible gcc or something.
[/quote:7f0d2ff804]

XMP is broken. If you have fixes/patches/improvements, send me. I have admin rights for the project on sourceforge. Claudio gave me privileges.

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From: amadeus
Date: Thu Apr 6 00:31:50 2006

To: UADE-Developer-discussion
[quote:6f7c78aa3d="mld/uade team"][quote:6f7c78aa3d]How come you know so much about swallows?[/quote:6f7c78aa3d]
We have the birdflu down here, so you start get a normal interests in fowl around you... Even in yellow ooooooooooooooooooones :-)
[/quote:6f7c78aa3d]

=) Have you noticed that it is always(?) John Cleese that makes these high voices? =)

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From: amadeus
Date: Thu Apr 6 00:32:56 2006

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[quote:2cebde31e2="shd"]XMP is broken. If you have fixes/patches/improvements, send me. I have admin rights for the project on sourceforge. Claudio gave me privileges.[/quote:2cebde31e2]

Do you have an idea of how skilled one have to be to fix xmp 2.0.5pre3 ?

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From: shd
Date: Thu Apr 6 08:36:10 2006

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[quote:78359e8fd8="amadeus"][quote:78359e8fd8="shd"]XMP is broken. If you have fixes/patches/improvements, send me. I have admin rights for the project on sourceforge. Claudio gave me privileges.[/quote:78359e8fd8]

Do you have an idea of how skilled one have to be to fix xmp 2.0.5pre3 ?[/quote:78359e8fd8]

You have to start from somewhere. Get your hands dirty.

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From: amadeus
Date: Thu Apr 6 22:42:35 2006

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[quote:755faaecf6="shd"]You have to start from somewhere. Get your hands dirty.[/quote:755faaecf6]

Sounds like a project for the summer vacation!